There's a little bit of pushing, a little bit of shoving, but in the end it's Jimmy who comes out smiling. The other two look a little miffed. But there's no shifting the father - and grandfather - of rallying's greatest dynasty.
We're in Rheola forest in Wales and have gathered three generations of the McRae family and three cars that helped bring that family name to prominence.
British Rally champions Jimmy and Alister McRae, father and brother respectively of 1995 World Rally champion Colin, are well-known in rallying circles. But what about Max? Max is McRae Jr Jr; Alister's 15-year-old son.