It's difficult to imagine what lies outside the comfort zone of a man who has advised a Spanish prime minister, met two presidents of the United States, befriended (and struck deals with) Bernie Ecclestone, run a GP2 team and wrangled the first all-electric single-seater race series into existence.
And then the conversation turns to Alejandro Agag's role in the billionaire buyout of Premier League football club Queens Park Rangers.
"That was a totally crazy experience," he laughs. "It was fantastic, great... but totally crazy!"